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Ha! Have you ever SEEN an above ground tunnel? — Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft ™ "From small things. . . comes great power" http://home.kc.rr.com/pendragonsloft Get your daily Dragon: http://www.pendragonsloft.blogspot.com/
Greetings, all. As the subject implies, I am new to this newsgroup. I am not Wiccan — if I must name my system of beliefs, I am Taoist. However, I am here for two reasons:
Welcome to the group. These things said, I have two requests. – I attempted to read the newsgroup FAQ, but found it unavailable (too old for my ISP to archive), could an appropriate person repost it please?
Well the FAQ was posted about a week ago, you might wish to talk to your ISP about short text retention. IAE you should be able to read the FAQ, link is in my sig. – Could someone point me to a few good primers (web sites and books are both quite welcome) on Wiccan belief and practice? There is so much biased information out there, I’m uncertain what sources to trust…
Witchvox.com is the most common posted answer for a good web site, URL in the FAQ —
| – I attempted to read the newsgroup FAQ, but found it unavailable (too | old for my ISP to archive), could an appropriate person repost it | please? | | Well the FAQ was posted about a week ago, you might wish to talk to your | ISP about short text retention. I tried this, and got two different responses: "We archive for 3 days on most newsgroups, 3 weeks on popular ones" Ok, this sounds reasonable. When I asked about this group in particular… "Oh, we don’t archive that kind of newsgroup." *grin* I strongly suspect the people running my ISP are fundamentalists… lots of them in this area. Oh, well… for the most part they run a quality ISP. Peace be with you.
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | – I attempted to read the newsgroup FAQ, but found it unavailable (too | old for my ISP to archive), could an appropriate person repost it | please? | | Well the FAQ was posted about a week ago, you might wish to talk to your | ISP about short text retention. I tried this, and got two different responses: "We archive for 3 days on most newsgroups, 3 weeks on popular ones" Ok, this sounds reasonable. When I asked about this group in particular… "Oh, we don’t archive that kind of newsgroup." *grin* I strongly suspect the people running my ISP are fundamentalists… lots of them in this area. Oh, well… for the most part they run a quality ISP.
Well, that has been a concern that some ISPs would not carry a pagan group. This is the first time I heard a report of such discrimination. All alt.* groups are optional and carry what they want to. At least they do let you read the group. If you wish to seek out past posts that your ISP does not support, there is http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search that can provide fills. Bear in mind ARW is unmoderated some some of the posts (most would say many) are not on topic. Peace be with you.
And with you. —
RadiantMatrix, WELCOME! Hope you are able to learn all your heart desires on the subject, the internet is a WONDERFUL source- as long as you dont use it exclusively because there are (as i found out myself and as my mother found out when looking into paganism/wicca) a lot of ppl who state what wicca is with much subjective and personal material added in which is not always exactly correct. However, with a healthy mix of book material and internet material, i think you’ll do well 
Some good Sites to look at are: www.mothersmagic.net www.spiritonline.com www.religioustolerance.org/witchra.htm www.eclecticpagans.com the messageboard at mothersmagic.net is very good, and so is their faq. I hope these will help you out. As for good literary material… i’m afraid i’m not the greatest of references on that… however there’s a million gazillion ppl here whom i ‘m sure canhelp you out in that area Blessings! Callista Elisabeth Pendragon
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | – I attempted to read the newsgroup FAQ, but found it unavailable (too | old for my ISP to archive), could an appropriate person repost it | please? | | Well the FAQ was posted about a week ago, you might wish to talk to your | ISP about short text retention. I tried this, and got two different responses: "We archive for 3 days on most newsgroups, 3 weeks on popular ones" Ok, this sounds reasonable. When I asked about this group in particular… "Oh, we don’t archive that kind of newsgroup." *grin* I strongly suspect the people running my ISP are fundamentalists… lots of them in this area. Oh, well… for the most part they run a quality ISP. Well, that has been a concern that some ISPs would not carry a pagan group. This is the first time I heard a report of such discrimination. All alt.* groups are optional and carry what they want to. At least they do let you read the group. If you wish to seek out past posts that your ISP does not support, there is http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search that can provide fills. Bear in mind ARW is unmoderated some some of the posts (most would say many) are not on topic. Peace be with you. And with you. —
<snip Callista Elisabeth Pendragon
Pendragon is a MALE title and not a last name.. make up your mind;) BirdTribe — "Clowns are attracted to any number of absurd realities" visit http://www.birdtribe.net for games, animations, keys
hey BirdTribe…. 
! hehehe. it’s a star wars group rpg name i use, picky and may i yet again restate in the most IMMATURE way possible… *grin*
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip Callista Elisabeth Pendragon Pendragon is a MALE title and not a last name.. make up your mind;) BirdTribe — "Clowns are attracted to any number of absurd realities" visit http://www.birdtribe.net for games, animations, keys
hey BirdTribe…. !
~~ Back atcha.. hehehe. it’s a star wars group rpg name i use, picky and may i yet again restate in the most IMMATURE way possible…
My inner child runs loose.. *grin*
Have a good evening Ma’am<—feminine but not misleading;) Birdie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip Callista Elisabeth Pendragon Pendragon is a MALE title and not a last name.. make up your mind;) BirdTribe — "Clowns are attracted to any number of absurd realities" visit http://www.birdtribe.net for games, animations, keys
– "Clowns are attracted to any number of absurd realities" visit http://www.birdtribe.net for games, animations, keys
hey BirdTribe…. ! ~~ Back atcha.. hehehe. it’s a star wars group rpg name i use, picky and may i yet again restate in the most IMMATURE way possible… My inner child runs loose..
Well PLEASE keep a diaper in it. Joe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – *grin* Have a good evening Ma’am<—feminine but not misleading;) Birdie <snip Callista Elisabeth Pendragon Pendragon is a MALE title and not a last name.. make up your mind;) BirdTribe — "Clowns are attracted to any number of absurd realities" visit http://www.birdtribe.net for games, animations, keys — "Clowns are attracted to any number of absurd realities" visit http://www.birdtribe.net for games, animations, keys
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hey BirdTribe…. ! ~~ Back atcha.. hehehe. it’s a star wars group rpg name i use, picky and may i yet again restate in the most IMMATURE way possible… My inner child runs loose.. Well PLEASE keep a diaper in it.
Let me borrow one of yours. BirdTribe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Joe *grin* Have a good evening Ma’am<—feminine but not misleading;) Birdie <snip Callista Elisabeth Pendragon Pendragon is a MALE title and not a last name.. make up your mind;) BirdTribe — "Clowns are attracted to any number of absurd realities" visit http://www.birdtribe.net for games, animations, keys — "Clowns are attracted to any number of absurd realities" visit http://www.birdtribe.net for games, animations, keys
– "Clowns are attracted to any number of absurd realities" visit http://www.birdtribe.net for games, animations, keys
Greetings, all. As the subject implies, I am new to this newsgroup. I am not Wiccan — if I must name my system of beliefs, I am Taoist. However, I am here for two reasons: 1. I am interested in the beliefs and practices of one of the world’s oldest religions. 2. My fiancee is thoroughly Wiccan – and though she has done her best to give me an understanding of what she believes, she is not the world’s greatest at explanation. Hopefully, my time here will help me understand more of what she believes and practices. These things said, I have two requests. – I attempted to read the newsgroup FAQ, but found it unavailable (too old for my ISP to archive), could an appropriate person repost it please? – Could someone point me to a few good primers (web sites and books are both quite welcome) on Wiccan belief and practice? There is so much biased information out there, I’m uncertain what sources to trust… Thank all of you in advance. Peace be with you.
Merry Meet I am new to wicca (been reading about it for a year). By posting this I hope to get in touch with someone who has practiced for a while.. I am ready to learn more. With love, Maya..
Greetings… welcome! Lilly The lights go out.. darkness arrives.. you are blinded, but in a way your true eyes open.. and you can see what has been hidden in the light: - the soul …
– Eastward sat the crone in the Ironwood, who farrowed there, the brood of Fenrir, of their get shall be seen, a certain one… He shall glut his maw with the flesh of men, and bloody with the gore… Dark grows the sun, storms rage in summer, weather’s a widdershins. Before you buy.
Welcome Maya Samantha – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Merry Meet I am new to wicca (been reading about it for a year). By posting this I hope to get in touch with someone who has practiced for a while.. I am ready to learn more. With love, Maya.. The lights go out.. darkness arrives.. you are blinded, but in a way your true eyes open.. and you can see what has been hidden in the light: – the soul …
Merry Meet
Howdy. I am new to wicca (been reading about it for a year). By posting this I hope to get in touch with someone who has practiced for a while..
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Blessed be. http://www.bookofshadows.org * http://www.netgoths.com I been Wiccan long time. Me teach you longtime. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Merry Meet I am new to wicca (been reading about it for a year). By posting this I hope to get in touch with someone who has practiced for a while.. I am ready to learn more. With love, Maya..
Merry Meet I am new to wicca (been reading about it for a year). By posting this I hope to get in touch with someone who has practiced for a while.. I am ready to learn more. With love, Maya..
You might try alt.pagan.contacts Where in Norway are you? I just got back from ten days there. Is it wet enough for you? — Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft ™ I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol ICQ 86535317 AIM Tales1n
Merry Meet Maya.. which side of the veil do you reside? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Merry Meet I am new to wicca (been reading about it for a year). By posting this I hope to get in touch with someone who has practiced for a while.. I am ready to learn more. With love, Maya.. The lights go out.. darkness arrives.. you are blinded, but in a way your true eyes open.. and you can see what has been hidden in the light: - the soul …
This is the first warning sign of possible cult activity. Never trust a Teacher that solicits you. An ethical Teacher will wait for you to come to them.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Blessed be. http://www.bookofshadows.org * http://www.netgoths.com I been Wiccan long time. Me teach you longtime. Merry Meet I am new to wicca (been reading about it for a year). By posting this I hope to get in touch with someone who has practiced for a while.. I am ready to learn more. With love, Maya..
– Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft ™ I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol ICQ 86535317 AIM Tales1n
Who is this person who is wishing to pretend to be me? Is any one here to know this? 9s J
are there any wicca groups in south wales (uk)
are there any wicca groups in south wales (uk)
You can try http://www.witchvox.net/wotw/home/wales.html to find possible contacts, I can not load the page at this time. You might also try http://www.paganfed.demon.co.uk/ HTH
are there any wicca groups in south wales (uk)
For information on groups in the UK, try: http://www.paganfed.demon.co.uk — Modkin for soc.religion.paganism, Modstaff for alt.religion.wicca.moderated Like science fiction and fantasy fiction? Read my reviews at <http://www.bairdstafford.com
I am curious to know how many people would choose to have a handfasting rather than a traditional marriage ceremony. Where would you go to find an officiant that would do the ceremony?
what’s a handfasting? (i’m only 15 marriage hasn’t really crossed my mind yet) AmyLurker *goes back to lurker mode*
Part of the process of becoming a functioning third-degree in my tradition is becoming legally recognized as a minister. At least one or both in each working couple is legally able to perform a legal handfasting. That’s how we get around that…I haven’t done one yet, but that’s all a matter of time. In Her Light, Gypsy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <<I am curious to know how many people would choose to have a handfasting over a traditional wedding ceremony. Where would you look for an officiant that would perform the ceremony? If you are referring to "handfasting" as a formal, legal ceremony, I’d have a handfasting. If I do ever get married again, this is the ceremony that will recognize the binding both according to our laws and the gods <G. Be sure to check out the state and COUNTY you are considering filing the legal documents in. Legal recognition of a marriage varies from state to state, and some counties have prohibitions. Then you can decide whose services to obtain for the legal aspects. There is lots of info online, but you’ll probably have to make a few calls also. Most states now recognize Wicca as a religion too. By the way, in New York state, it takes three witnesses to sign the marrriage certificate for a legal marriage. *B*B CRD
I am curious to know how many people would choose to have a handfasting over a traditional wedding ceremony. Where would you look for an officiant that would perform the ceremony?
Many pagans get officially married in a registry office or a civil ceremony and have a handfasting afterwards, Having attended quite a few handfasting, I would honestly say its the most spiritual, loving and fun event ever. Their are always those who can and do officiate. I have even heard Christians who were invited to such handfastings comment on its spirituality and the fact it involves everyone who is their, I try my best to avoid traditional weddings, they bore the life out of me, But invite me to a handfasting, and I will be their with my party frock on — The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/
I am curious to know how many people would choose to have a handfasting over a traditional wedding ceremony. Where would you look for an officiant that would perform the ceremony?
I am curious to know how many people would choose to have a handfasting rather than a traditional marriage ceremony. Where would you go to find an officiant that would do the ceremony?
If you satisfy the state and federal government by having a judge, magistrate, or justice of the peace marry you in the legal sense. Then anyone of a true Pagan faith could Handfast/Bind/Marry you spiritually. Don’t the Royals Do such….But a legal then a Christian ceremony in their case. Terry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am curious to know how many people would choose to have a handfasting rather than a traditional marriage ceremony. Where would you go to find an officiant that would do the ceremony?
Merry Meet: My mate Lady Llydia and I did. We were lucky enough to find a Priestess who was also legally allowed to perform a marriage. Blessed be, Lady Dionne
<<I am curious to know how many people would choose to have a handfasting over a traditional wedding ceremony. Where would you look for an officiant that would perform the ceremony? If you are referring to "handfasting" as a formal, legal ceremony, I’d have a handfasting. If I do ever get married again, this is the ceremony that will recognize the binding both according to our laws and the gods <G. Be sure to check out the state and COUNTY you are considering filing the legal documents in. Legal recognition of a marriage varies from state to state, and some counties have prohibitions. Then you can decide whose services to obtain for the legal aspects. There is lots of info online, but you’ll probably have to make a few calls also. Most states now recognize Wicca as a religion too. By the way, in New York state, it takes three witnesses to sign the marrriage certificate for a legal marriage. *B*B CRD
I would like to have a handfasting instead of a traditional wedding (I even want it on a full moon). I will use a Justice of the Peace, or you can even have a friend get their license just for you. I would never get married in a church because it would be very hypocritical – I don’t go to church! Although, I’m single right now and not getting married anytime soon. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am curious to know how many people would choose to have a handfasting rather than a traditional marriage ceremony. Where would you go to find an officiant that would do the ceremony?
Shez, My grandmother taught me to score the rind with a knife and leave them in the ade. This will keep you from accidentally drinking rind, which scratches going down. Mom used your way but strained the rind off before serving and dried them for potpourri.
I do much the same thing, I like the scent of lemons its so clean , I am now just harvesting my Lavender I have bushes and bushes full of it, and some of that will go for Potpourri to. I save the rind of oranges for the same reason. and dry the best rose petals, jasmine flowers, and honeysuckle. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — –cerista pill and thrills and daffodils will kill o}- How do you make old fashion lemonaid? Just lemons hot water and sugar, you take the juice out of the lemons add sugar, and just off the boil water, let it cool down a little and then leave it in the fridge to cool, Some people like to add a ginger beer yeast to make it bubbly but I always preferred it still, or you can add just a little warm water, and fill up on soda water when its finished, make sure that all the pips are removed and that the juice is all that goes in. so filter it, You need to also add the zest of lemon so take a scrapper to the skin an peel it into small flakes, making sure you get the liquid as it squirts, float that on top of the lemonade, but take it out before you drink it, For a cold, you could keep some in the fridge, then take it up to boiling and drink it as hot as you can, with a couple of tsp. of sugar. it sweats the cold out of your system very quickly and reduces fever, and headaches. — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) If it is a cold make up some old fashioned lemonade, put a tsp. of sugar into a large, large mug, boil the lemonade, put it in the mug, it will fizz up like no ones business, drink it when its as hot as you can stand it, then go to bed. You will sweat the cold out overnight. . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . — The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/ — The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/
– The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/
I never heard of that one, but the next time I’m sick I will give it a try. I usually make a tea from Echinacea and it works well. Findalis
If it is a cold make up some old fashioned lemonade, put a tsp. of sugar into a large, large mug, boil the lemonade, put it in the mug, it will fizz up like no ones business, drink it when its as hot as you can stand it, then go to bed. You will sweat the cold out overnight.
How do you make old fashion lemonaid?
Just lemons hot water and sugar, you take the juice out of the lemons add sugar, and just off the boil water, let it cool down a little and then leave it in the fridge to cool, Some people like to add a ginger beer yeast to make it bubbly but I always preferred it still, or you can add just a little warm water, and fill up on soda water when its finished, make sure that all the pips are removed and that the juice is all that goes in. so filter it, You need to also add the zest of lemon so take a scrapper to the skin an peel it into small flakes, making sure you get the liquid as it squirts, float that on top of the lemonade, but take it out before you drink it, For a cold, you could keep some in the fridge, then take it up to boiling and drink it as hot as you can, with a couple of tsp. of sugar. it sweats the cold out of your system very quickly and reduces fever, and headaches. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) If it is a cold make up some old fashioned lemonade, put a tsp. of sugar into a large, large mug, boil the lemonade, put it in the mug, it will fizz up like no ones business, drink it when its as hot as you can stand it, then go to bed. You will sweat the cold out overnight. . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . — The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/
– The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/
I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =)
If it is a cold make up some old fashioned lemonade, put a tsp. of sugar into a large, large mug, boil the lemonade, put it in the mug, it will fizz up like no ones business, drink it when its as hot as you can stand it, then go to bed. You will sweat the cold out overnight. . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. .
– The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/
How do you make old fashion lemonaid? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) If it is a cold make up some old fashioned lemonade, put a tsp. of sugar into a large, large mug, boil the lemonade, put it in the mug, it will fizz up like no ones business, drink it when its as hot as you can stand it, then go to bed. You will sweat the cold out overnight. . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . — The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/
With lemons and water rather than a mix or concentrate. The trick is to leave the rinds in the pitcher. — –cerista pill and thrills and daffodils will kill o}-
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How do you make old fashion lemonaid? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) If it is a cold make up some old fashioned lemonade, put a tsp. of sugar into a large, large mug, boil the lemonade, put it in the mug, it will fizz up like no ones business, drink it when its as hot as you can stand it, then go to bed. You will sweat the cold out overnight. . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . — The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/
Thanks 
— B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – With lemons and water rather than a mix or concentrate. The trick is to leave the rinds in the pitcher. — –cerista pill and thrills and daffodils will kill o}- How do you make old fashion lemonaid? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) If it is a cold make up some old fashioned lemonade, put a tsp. of sugar into a large, large mug, boil the lemonade, put it in the mug, it will fizz up like no ones business, drink it when its as hot as you can stand it, then go to bed. You will sweat the cold out overnight. . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . — The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/
Shez, My grandmother taught me to score the rind with a knife and leave them in the ade. This will keep you from accidentally drinking rind, which scratches going down. Mom used your way but strained the rind off before serving and dried them for potpourri. — –cerista pill and thrills and daffodils will kill o}-
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How do you make old fashion lemonaid? Just lemons hot water and sugar, you take the juice out of the lemons add sugar, and just off the boil water, let it cool down a little and then leave it in the fridge to cool, Some people like to add a ginger beer yeast to make it bubbly but I always preferred it still, or you can add just a little warm water, and fill up on soda water when its finished, make sure that all the pips are removed and that the juice is all that goes in. so filter it, You need to also add the zest of lemon so take a scrapper to the skin an peel it into small flakes, making sure you get the liquid as it squirts, float that on top of the lemonade, but take it out before you drink it, For a cold, you could keep some in the fridge, then take it up to boiling and drink it as hot as you can, with a couple of tsp. of sugar. it sweats the cold out of your system very quickly and reduces fever, and headaches. — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) If it is a cold make up some old fashioned lemonade, put a tsp. of sugar into a large, large mug, boil the lemonade, put it in the mug, it will fizz up like no ones business, drink it when its as hot as you can stand it, then go to bed. You will sweat the cold out overnight. . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . — The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/ — The ‘Old Craft’ lady http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/shez/
I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? Soya Lethicin. It’s a natural supplement which has an anti viral effect. Kinda looks like giant vitamin E pills. It does work, though. Morgan
Zinc lozenges have helped me, particularly with a sore throat type cold. If it seems like it has lasted a long time it might be allergies–mine are terrible this year from all the wet weather and plant growth. ( I love my green friends but some of them have nasty effects on me). Turtle "If I can’t dance, I don’t want to be in your revolution." (Emma Goldman) To respond Email, remove ns from address
I like to get rid of a cold by calling off work and laying around the house in my PJs complaining to my roomates about how crappy I feel (while at the same time asking them to get me things…EX. a drink, slippers, ect…then they all get pissed off at me and go away or avoid me… and I get my tissues, blanky, and pillow and set up base camp on my couch…I live on the couch for approx. 2-3 days or until I bore the cold to death… It doesn’t make the cold go away any faster…but it makes me feel better… Blessed Be… Kate
Hahahahahaha! A kindred spirit!
I’d suggest a blend of camomile, anise, clove, damiana, black tea and sweetener. Lemon balm or another member of the mint family can be used to soften the flavor. Garlic in your meals, as well as echinacea can help. They both contain chemicals which are known and proven antiviral and antibiotic. Good luck. If you have any questions, send an e-mail to me with a descriptions of the symptoms, and I’ll try to suggest something…. Kirk
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Eat vitamin C like it is going out of style. At least 5000 mg (5 grams) a day. I have that same nasty shit and this seems to be working.
And, too much of it will give you ‘NASTY SHITS’. If the urine is a nice, fluorescent green color, you’ve had enough. Over 1000 mg is generally discarded by the body unused, and could become toxic to you. Kirk
yeah, garlic is a natural antibiotic, as is echinecea (sp?)…try either one…and although some people claim that Vitamin C only helps prevent colds, i find that a combination of garlic, plenty of water, and Vit C usually gets rid of mine rpetty quick "The truth winds somewhere between the road to Glastonbury, Isle of the Priests, and the road to Avalon, lost forever in the mists of the Summer Sea."
Zinc lozenges are supposed to lessen symptoms/decrease duration if taken liberally at the onset of a cold. –Jeinna – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. .
I like to get rid of a cold by calling off work and laying around the house in my PJs complaining to my roomates about how crappy I feel (while at the same time asking them to get me things…EX. a drink, slippers, ect…then they all get pissed off at me and go away or avoid me… and I get my tissues, blanky, and pillow and set up base camp on my couch…I live on the couch for approx. 2-3 days or until I bore the cold to death… It doesn’t make the cold go away any faster…but it makes me feel better… Blessed Be… Kate "Well, now that we have seen each other," said the Unicorn, "if you’ll believe in me, I’ll believe in you." -Through the Looking Glass "Beware the Jabberwock my son!
I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions?
Soya Lethicin. It’s a natural supplement which has an anti viral effect. Kinda looks like giant vitamin E pills. It does work, though. Morgan "My hovercraft is full of eels"
Not a lot you can do now, but when colds are going around wash your hands a lot, take 3 or 4 (daily) echinacea/goldenseal combo caps (not for more than 3 weeks), plus plenty of C. If in spite of your efforts you catch it, AT THE FIRST SIGN THAT YOU HAVE IT get into as hot a tub as you can stand, with a hot drink. Prepare your bed with as many quilts and blankets as you own. Spread a towel over your pillow. After soaking for at least 20 minutes, pat dry, put on socks and pjs(or long underwear) Get in bed with a glass of water handy, bundle up and stay there for 24 hours getting up only for the bathroom or hot drinks and for those trips stay bundled. If you want to eat go ahead. Restless in bed, go to the sofa for TV if you must but stay bundled and quiet. Drink lots of liquid. Garlic, onions, peppers, Jewish style chicken soup are all good. Get well! Mokosh )O( – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. .
—–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—– Hash: SHA1 I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions?
Have you tried eating anything with plenty of garlic in it? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. .
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Eat vitamin C like it is going out of style. At least 5000 mg (5 grams) a day. I have that same nasty shit and this seems to be working. — Talesin- Priest and Witch "Do not tease or annoy the primates as they will throw objectionable material." - sign in a British zoo AIM: tales1n ICQ: 39658232
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no. Though my friend said to eat a garlic clove? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – —–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—– Hash: SHA1 I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? Have you tried eating anything with plenty of garlic in it? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. . – - — DragonLady MKB — Solitary Eclectic Wiccan So what if I flame. Would you expect any less from a dragon? ;-) (My email address is a spammer trap. I refuse to give out my new email address for fear of being spammed again.) For recipes and other interests, try http://www.neto.com/wildcard/ —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: PGPfreeware 6.0 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBN30cTPndrA237edBEQIrnwCgmbqyutz6CrusElWSGBf8UMB+UL0An0Eh 2Sf0aY1VoHB+/qKtjiLSO0kZ =NFuO —–END PGP SIGNATURE—–
Can’t do nuthin Bout cold but cover the Symptoms until Ye body defeats it Lil honey, lil hot water, anna lot o Bacardi limon do wonders in coverin it up though. "Remark the cat who hesitates towards you"T.S. Eliot DarkMinds – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. .
I usually drink either chamomile or lemon herbal tea when I am sick…..but I can’t shake this terrible cold…..any suggestions? — B.B.&*P*L*U*R* the crystalgypsy =) . .. …Check out all the rave newsgroups. Over 20 different newsgroups available… .. .
What good does it do to have a will of iron if one refuses to see? The ability to be flexible and bend is far more useful and helpful for growth. When it comes to dedication to ones beliefs, that is a personal thing, and should be kept as such. Spells are spells, and they do a job. How you use a spell is important. Perhaps your father was wrong to cast the spell as he did, but maybe without anyone knowing it he saved your life. Every time I go the wrong way by accident when I am driving, I always wonder if the accidental inconvenience perhaps saved me from a tragic accident. These are areas I with hold judgment as to right and wrong. One never knows. As far as the sex spell being done with out a condom. That is not a moral issue. It is not immoral to engage in sexual activity without a condom. Never reject anything because you think your ideals are more correct. Or as you said we nowadays have "a heightened sense of ethics". That is not true. We can’t even begin to say we are anymore heightened than our ancestors. What about the wisdom of the ages? IMHO, blessings, Laura. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – RBB mentioned a sex spell a week ago, and condoms were not to be used. This alarmed some, because it is not safe sex. There is going to be a problem with old spells, because our heightened sense of ethics and more importantly the open discussion of motives ,that old spells are subjected to mean closer scrutiny than they were exposed to in the past. It can also be impossible to predict the long term outcome of a spell, and this alone can bring inaction where originally the spell was sought to bring about change. For instance, my sister married and moved far way. My father did not want this to happen again, so he grew a pin oak from an acorn, cut off my hair, cut my right palm along the life line and mingled the hair the blood and the soil and then planted the tree over it. Consequently I have never moved far away, and when I did, I always came back. I live 10 feet from this tree. If this spell is to be believed: The downside: I can’t seem to leave. The upside: I derive a lot of energy from the place where I come from, everything earth based is easy and lucky. Dad didn’t think twice about tieing me to the land, yet I hesitate to do the same to my children. One wants to live in CA. I am tempted to fix her here. I know that I could do it, but I don’t think I will because it doesn’t seem right. Do ethics spoil the spell? Does too much intellectualization weaken witchcraft? What of our iron wills, one of our most precious assets? — Pip
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RBB mentioned a sex spell a week ago, and condoms were not to be used. This alarmed some, because it is not safe sex.
If the goal of the spell is to have children, then what would be the point of using a condom? There is going to be a problem with old spells, because our heightened sense of ethics and more importantly the open discussion of motives ,that old spells are subjected to mean closer scrutiny than they were exposed to in the past.
Maybe and maybe not. Some people will try anything once without thinking about any consequences first. It can also be impossible to predict the long term outcome of a spell, and this alone can bring inaction where originally the spell was sought to bring about change.
Some practitioners use a divination tool to see what effect the spell will have before doing it. Still, that can lead to inaction as well. <snip Dad didn’t think twice about tieing me to the land, yet I hesitate to do the same to my children. One wants to live in CA. I am tempted to fix her here. I know that I could do it, but I don’t think I will because it doesn’t seem right. Do ethics spoil the spell? Does too much intellectualization weaken witchcraft? What of our iron wills, one of our most precious assets?
If you feel it’s wrong, then the spell might bomb in some manner. But then better advice is that if you don’t feel it’s right to do something, then just don’t do it. — Pip
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RBB mentioned a sex spell a week ago, and condoms were not to be used. This alarmed some, because it is not safe sex. There is going to be a problem with old spells, because our heightened sense of ethics and more importantly the open discussion of motives ,that old spells are subjected to mean closer scrutiny than they were exposed to in the past. It can also be impossible to predict the long term outcome of a spell, and this alone can bring inaction where originally the spell was sought to bring about change. For instance, my sister married and moved far way. My father did not want this to happen again, so he grew a pin oak from an acorn, cut off my hair, cut my right palm along the life line and mingled the hair the blood and the soil and then planted the tree over it. Consequently I have never moved far away, and when I did, I always came back. I live 10 feet from this tree. If this spell is to be believed: The downside: I can’t seem to leave. The upside: I derive a lot of energy from the place where I come from, everything earth based is easy and lucky. Dad didn’t think twice about tieing me to the land, yet I hesitate to do the same to my children. One wants to live in CA. I am tempted to fix her here. I know that I could do it, but I don’t think I will because it doesn’t seem right. Do ethics spoil the spell? Does too much intellectualization weaken witchcraft? What of our iron wills, one of our most precious assets? — Pip
Hi, everyone! Just reminding everyone that I can send *My Wiccan Faith* via e-mail to anyone with Word ‘97 and Word 6.0, and I can send it snail-mail to everyone else. To anyone who is waiting for a snail-mail copy: they’re coming! I had to buy more copy paper. When my website goes up, I will be able to send the booklet via pdf file, so everyone will be able to read it on their computer. (Yes, I really am working on it! It’s taking longer than I thought! I hope it’s up by Samhain.) Bright Blessings, Holiday
Could you please send me a copy of your Wiccan book for Word 97, thank you. Thanks,
i have a mac, aol 3.0, if you can please send me your booklet. also if you know of a wicca chat i’d like to know. thanks from tlc
RBB plaintively piped: Before you leave, you must turn in your homework. I want you to post what Peter Pan reported to the FBI/ATF. I want you to go to Dejanews, cut and paste and post it.
Poor Tweety can’t make the Wolf dance on command. Only Sylvester wants to play your silly game, birdie. 
: RBB plaintively piped: : : Before you leave, you must turn in your homework. I want you to post what : Peter Pan reported to the FBI/ATF. I want you to go to Dejanews, cut and : paste and post it. : : Poor Tweety can’t make the Wolf dance on command. Only Sylvester wants to play : your silly game, birdie. OH! But Wolf is missing all the fun. — http://www.anneli.com/blackbane IRC : anneli.com #witchcraft creator of alt.witchcraft creator of alt.traditional.witchcraft original creator of alt.religion.wicca don’t like my postings, then go to: alt.religion.wicca.moderated //// /// ‘~ ( —– // / // : ) —– Raven / / / /) / —- BlackBane / //..\
Before you leave, you must turn in your homework. I want you to post what Peter Pan reported to the FBI/ATF. I want you to go to Dejanews, cut and paste and post it. — http://www.anneli.com/blackbane IRC : anneli.com #witchcraft creator of alt.witchcraft creator of alt.traditional.witchcraft original creator of alt.religion.wicca don’t like my postings, then go to: alt.religion.wicca.moderated //// /// ‘~ ( —– // / // : ) —– Raven / / / /) / —- BlackBane / //..\
Also, I’d appreciate hearing about different ways to cast a circle.
I was taught (and have come to firmly believe through my own experience) that there are several reasons for casting a very formal circle, especially when doing group work. Those reasons are: The repeated, ritual process becomes a powerful technique for altering conciousness (some traditions call this engaging younger self); that repeated ritual action builds a powerful "complex" on the astral plane which can be tapped instantly when needed.; that a complete, well cast circle (which is acutually a sphere in our tradition) contains the energy raised for magical work until it is purposefully directed for ritual purpose; and last but not least, it protects from unwanted intrusions which may or may not be malignent in nature. Although the specifics of our tradition’s circle cast are part of that tradition, the common elements of good circles I have experienced have been as follows: 1. Cleanse and ritually charge all items to be used in circle (this has to be done only once if same items are used each time) and set up altar. 2. Cleansing and auric balancing of primariy casters of the circle.. 3. Cleanse the area to be used with all four elements and ritual sweeping. 4. Laying foundation – define the perimeter of the circle to be cast with sword or wand 5. Building walls – using athame or wand (if no ritual tools may be done with projective hand with middle finger and forefinger) project an elemental pentagram at appropriate direction (these assignments vary from tradition to tradition) visualizing a vibrating energy form and then with a continual line of blue or white light flame (or energy shield) continue deosil to the next quarter point, draw the appropriate elemental pentagram, as described before, continue energy line to next quarter, until you have all four quarter pentagrams and return line and connect it to first pentagrams. Different traditions start in different places – many start in the East. 6. Visualize the energy wall continuing up and down and curving to meet itself until it forms a complete sphere. 7. Bring in group participants through a door cut widdershins in the circle (in many traditions, this is when the ritual challenge is given and responded to) in our circle the HP/HPs is responsible to check and gently balance each individual. Then close the door with deosil seal. 8. Charge the quarters with fire and air, earth and water 7. Define the work to be done if not done before circle to atune the group 9. Call the quarters/elements (some traditions also call "spirit/ether") we consisder this the God/Goddess in union. 10. Invoke or Evoke the Goddess and God 11. Proceed to work or celebrate. 12. Dismiss elementals to go on their way and harm none 13. Thank the God and Goddess for their attendance, release them to go if they will/ stay if they might. 14. Open the circle/sphere Although this may seem cumbersome at first, with practice it is smooth, rapid and very powerful tool for altering the conciousness of not only the P/Ps but all participants. Once this level of specific technique is well established, it may be tapped by simple recall and the circle cast instantaneously for personal work, etc. We find that the process is helpful with group work to alighn energy, alter conciousness. Hope this is interesting to you…. and note this is what works in my experience,,,, not recommended dogma (or catma as may be the case). BB AmberIsis
Can some of us true Wiccans start some intersting threads and make this newsgroup so boring to the Satanists that they leave us alone? We’ve been gone from the net for a few months and can’t believe how this newsgroup has degenerated from an honest discussion of Wiccan rituals, magic and philosophy to these morons discussing Satanism. Donner Ironoak and Aurora Dawn
Deborah writes, Well, I can certainly second that. I used to come here often. No so anymore. I like to learn and one of the best ways I can think of is to share. So, I do, little as I might know, new as I am. I will even sometimes poke fun at some of the total bigots out there. But I find so much out there, some days it doesn’t seem worth the effort. Although, I can also sometimes understand understand how annoyed people get. I seem to be more upset by things that seem milder than what others come out with. Usually, I respond to something pretty flame free. Not yesterday. The posts that I am most bothered by are the "stereotype" ones. Yesterday it was one stating that all non-Christians were Pagans. Such remarks seem to me, the ones that piss everybody off. Especially atheists and Eastern religions. It is just SO annoying to hear that. So, I let fly! Got it all out and even spell-checked. Then, when I tried to post I couldn’t. The post I tried to respond to was cross-posted to at least 5 other newsgroups. My university account won’t let you post to more than six. I suspect that sometimes the Goddess works in strange ways! But, I am sure glad she did! I really don’t want to engage in battles of wits with some of these individuals. Especially since some of the are not equipped for such battles. It doesn’t really help you learn a lot either. April & Steve Willis – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – make this newsgroup so boring to the Satanists that they leave us alone? We’ve been gone from the net for a few months and can’t believe how this newsgroup has degenerated from an honest discussion of Wiccan rituals, magic and philosophy to these morons discussing Satanism. Donner Ironoak and Aurora Dawn
HOW I SEXED THE GODDESS AND SAVED THE WORLD (or just another one of those post-modern, neo-pagan, tantric apocalypses) copyright 1996 Jim Davis It was a time of despair and of hope. I was standing alone in the midst of an endless plain; vast steppes as far as the eye could see. The grass and weeds were dry and brittle as felt by the soles of my bare feet. There was no wind, the sky obscured. Then I looked out again and saw the far-off cities in flames. The fires of death danced along every horizon. Bellowing black smoke from a million Mt. Saint Helens choked the skies. It was then that I knew that death was near. Strange thoughts come to mind contemplating one’s death. Scenes from "Slaughter House Five" came back; I remembered how the fire storms sucked the oxygen from the air to feed the fires. So I expected to be asphyxiated. Since I could not possible save myself, as the whole world was being engulfed in flame, I started chanting the sutra of Kuan Yin, She who regards the cries of the World. Chanting I watched as the world burned. No life could be seen; no animals nor insects fleeing for their lives. No birds trying to soar to safety. It was at that time it occurred to me that death had already conquered and I was to be its last victim. Everything was dead. If I died there would be nothing to be reborn as, so this would be the last death. Fear turned into sadness; my tears rained down upon the parched earth. Then the world itself began to shake. In the distance a gong sounded three times. The earth began to rise. I backed away as a large flat top mound of earth rose out of the ground to tower high above me. And I could barely see its summit. In front there was a single staircase to the top, steep like the temples of the Aztecs and Mayans, I felt a compulsion to climb. As I reached the top my heart was racing, and I thought I was going to pass out. I staggered and fell forward. Getting back up I beheld a vision. It was the goddess of the earth. She stood standing skyclad with the forces of nature swirling about her. She commanded me to approach. I became Eros. We embraced in sexual passion, making love for several hours; it was the union of earth and sky. Then suddenly she was gone. I became the widow’s son. The world continued to burn as I lay exhausted. I then heard a great noise and looked up to see a large mechanical dragon flying in my direction. It was red and black in color making loud clanking noises as it flapped its iron clad wings. Every once and while it spat out flames setting the ground on fire. I stood up to watch, to await the wonders to come. The flames of death rapidly approached from all directions, and the dragon came down upon me. I died. As I found myself drifting towards the lights of death’s bardo, I looked down below and saw the dragon collapsing upon the mound. Exploding by the fires of its own creation, its body scattering into infinite directions. Dying without a consciousness, it had no lights to go towards. It was finished. And the earth died. And I went to the lights of the deities. I became nature’s god. Coming into new consciousness, I broke through the lights to ride the thunderclouds of Kali-yuga. I saw the earth below, dead because of what the people did to it. Anger arose without limit; I exploded in create fury. I rained down the waters upon the earth; my semen united with the body of the goddess. Anger subsiding I looked again below. There I saw a green plant sprouting out of the earth. Shouting out against death; I made a charge against the dark god of chaos: "Death, where now is your victory!"
: Can some of us true Wiccans start some intersting threads and : make this newsgroup so boring to the Satanists that they leave : us alone? We’ve been gone from the net for a few months and : can’t believe how this newsgroup has degenerated from an honest : discussion of Wiccan rituals, magic and philosophy to these : morons discussing Satanism. : Donner Ironoak and Aurora Dawn I think these things go in cycles, and it is time for this cycle to turn. Go for it! – Daniel —
Can some of us true Wiccans start some intersting threads and make this newsgroup so boring to the Satanists that they leave us alone? We’ve been gone from the net for a few months and can’t believe how this newsgroup has degenerated from an honest discussion of Wiccan rituals, magic and philosophy to these morons discussing Satanism. Donner Ironoak and Aurora Dawn
Usenet newsgroups always have the problems of "invaders" messing with their contents, especially in religious subjects, and very especially in non-Christian subjects. Still, time to get back to Wicca. I’d be interested to hear what rituals others use. Mine are very simple – a candle, some incense, a small figurine, and lots of feeling. Also, I’d appreciate hearing about different ways to cast a circle. I’m book-taught so am pretty raw at this stuff. Nevertheless, I do feel the presence of the Goddess when I do my rituals and just about anytime during the day when I think about Her. -Claidhmr
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