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  • I Don't Like The Word "Cowan"

    Question:

    | | <snip | | What do you mean "we"?  You are right, have no right to use this term. | However, whenever a Witch does it, it is perfectly okay.  It is just a means | of differentiating ourselves from… the rest of you.  Pointing out the | difference between Witch and cowan is no different importing out the | difference between ape and human. | Sorry if this chafes your Neo Wiccan liberal sensitivities but that’s the | way it is. | | But why use a word that originated with the (Christian) Freemasons? Because it fits so well in context. Witches know how to use the "mortar" that holds the universe together while cowan have to try to put things together without it. If we start accepting or rejecting words based on their etymology, we will be communicating with grunts. Nice to speak with you again, BTW. I hope you are doing well and had a great Yule. — Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft ™ "Arguing with Talesin is like running in the Special Olympics- even if you win, you’re still retarded"- Kim Krecek  http://home.kc.rr.com/pendragonsloft


  • Pagans Who Have Personal Relationships with Xians Are Traitors

    Question:

     cacked this fuckin treat out! cacked this fuckin treat out! I would tell those who wrote the Ardanes what your opinion is but, since they are long dead, I doubt it would matter much to them. Thanks for sharing your ignorance, though. hahahahahhaahahar! shut up you fat joke! Don’t forget he’s a Reel Initiated Alexandrian, SW, and his mum was a Reel Brit Trad, and he knows *ever* so much about witchcraft and Wicca. Heh.

    oh yeah that fuckin eedjat theif and i mean literaly a theif! saunders…no wonder HE suddenly dropped dead…hahahahahahahahr! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Jani | | Kook | | | In the olden days, when the Old Ones walked amongst us and we were blessed | with full powers, we could use the art against wind and fire and any of | those who ill-treated the Brotherhood. But in these evil days, we must not | do so! For our enemies have devised a burning pit of everlasting fire, into | which they say their God casteth all the people who worship Him, except it | be the very few who are released by their priest’s spells and masses. And | this be chiefly by giving monies and rich gifts to receive his favor, for | their God is ever in need of money. – SCREAMINGWITCH! SHEFFIELD FORUM UNMODERATED http://freeuktalksheffield.hyperboards.com/ http://www.geocities.com/screamingwitch2000/FUKTS.html When you post peoples personal info, It’s show that you have nothing left and have been spanked real good. To bad you fell for that phony # and addy.=(PMD.alt.talk.bollocks PI revealer) This is what happened.  I was riding home on my mule holding my rooster and hen.  My mule stopped on me.  Now my mule won’t move until I scratch him behind the ears.  Well the pastor’s wife was walking by.  I only said "Pardon me Mrs. Hillbunker but would you hold my cock and pullet while I scratch my ass", and the next thing I know is that the police have me on the ground, handcuffed, and beating me with billy clubs.                                       Tavish "You have a woman’s hand, milord! I’ll wager these dainty pinkies never weighed anchor in a storm." "Your skin milord. I’ll wager it ne’er felt the lash of a cat ['o' nine tails], been rubbed with salt, and then flayed off by a pirate chief to make fine stockings for his best cabin boy." "Ha. -Aah! You have a woman’s purse! I’ll wager that purse has never been used as a rowing-boat. I’ll wager it’s never had sixteen shipwrecked mariners tossing in it." "Oh! You have a woman’s mouth, milord! I’ll wager that mouth never had to chew through the side of a ship to escape the dreadful spindly killer fish. " – Mad Captain Rum PROMOTE YOOSNET…..X-POST! Look into my eyes and it’s easy to see One and one make two, two and one make three, It was destiny. Once every hundred-thousand years or so, When the sun doth shine and the moon doth glow And the grass doth grow… Needless to say, the beast was stunned. Whip-crack went his schwumpy tail, And the beast was done. He asked us: "(snort) Be you angels?" And we said, "Nay. We are but men." Rock! alt.pmd.spank.my.arse.please alt.pmd.spank.my.big.arse.please alt.pmd.spank.my.big.red.arse.please alt.pmd.biggest.spanked.looser.on.usenet SUBSCRIBE! Breaker, breaker, lookout, watch your back Be afraid there’s a Frisbee-like cat who’s a mighty sharp blade. So the feared and revered reputation was made of….. Sailcat "You’re a very empty person. If I were of a superstitious bent, I would seriously pray for you. Being of a more rational mien, I realise you are simply irredeemable. Whoever turned you into the person you are has a lot to answer for, one way or another."—JAF:uk.misc i change my sig everree now and then.its no big deal… like an insect that needs attention with a can of aerosol and a lighter,, they are both short lived "No one takes any notice of trolls posting through alt.net.news or whatever anonymous server you idiots use." — Mike Clayton mhm35×29 OFM#20 Frater V.V.L Hierophant Temple of Anubis No.2 Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn Rosicrucian Order of Alpha et Omega. def leppard….that is all

    - SCREAMINGWITCH! SHEFFIELD FORUM UNMODERATED http://freeuktalksheffield.hyperboards.com/ http://www.geocities.com/screamingwitch2000/FUKTS.html When you post peoples personal info, It’s show that you have nothing left and have been spanked real good. To bad you fell for that phony # and addy.=(PMD.alt.talk.bollocks PI revealer) This is what happened.  I was riding home on my mule holding my rooster and hen.  My mule stopped on me.  Now my mule won’t move until I scratch him behind the ears.  Well the pastor’s wife was walking by.  I only said "Pardon me Mrs. Hillbunker but would you hold my cock and pullet while I scratch my ass", and the next thing I know is that the police have me on the ground, handcuffed, and beating me with billy clubs.                                        Tavish "You have a woman’s hand, milord! I’ll wager these dainty  pinkies never weighed anchor in a storm." "Your skin milord. I’ll wager it ne’er felt the lash  of a cat ['o' nine tails], been rubbed with salt, and  then flayed off by a pirate chief to make fine  stockings for his best cabin boy." "Ha. -Aah! You have a woman’s purse! I’ll wager that  purse has never been used  as a rowing-boat. I’ll wager it’s never had sixteen  shipwrecked mariners tossing in it." "Oh! You have a woman’s mouth, milord! I’ll wager that  mouth never had to chew through the side of a  ship to escape the dreadful spindly killer fish. " – Mad Captain Rum PROMOTE YOOSNET…..X-POST! Look into my eyes and it’s easy to see One and one make two, two and one make three, It was destiny. Once every hundred-thousand years or so, When the sun doth shine and the moon doth glow And the grass doth grow… Needless to say, the beast was stunned. Whip-crack went his schwumpy tail, And the beast was done. He asked us: "(snort) Be you angels?" And we said, "Nay. We are but men." Rock! alt.pmd.spank.my.arse.please alt.pmd.spank.my.big.arse.please alt.pmd.spank.my.big.red.arse.please alt.pmd.biggest.spanked.looser.on.usenet SUBSCRIBE! Breaker, breaker, lookout, watch your back Be afraid there’s a Frisbee-like cat who’s a mighty  sharp blade. So the feared and revered reputation was made of….. Sailcat "You’re a very empty person. If I were of a superstitious bent, I would seriously pray for you. Being of a more rational mien, I realise you are simply irredeemable. Whoever turned you into the person you are has a lot to answer for, one way or another."—JAF:uk.misc i change my sig everree now and then.its no big deal… like an insect that needs attention with a can of aerosol and a lighter,, they are both short lived "No one takes any notice of trolls posting through alt.net.news or whatever anonymous server you idiots use." — Mike Clayton mhm35×29 OFM#20 Frater V.V.L Hierophant Temple of Anubis No.2 Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn Rosicrucian Order of Alpha et Omega. def leppard….that is all

    Response:

    cacked this fuckin treat out! I would tell those who wrote the Ardanes what your opinion is but, since they are long dead, I doubt it would matter much to them. Thanks for sharing your ignorance, though. hahahahahhaahahar! shut up you fat joke!

    Don’t forget he’s a Reel Initiated Alexandrian, SW, and his mum was a Reel Brit Trad, and he knows *ever* so much about witchcraft and Wicca. Heh. Jani – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | | Kook | | | In the olden days, when the Old Ones walked amongst us and we were blessed | with full powers, we could use the art against wind and fire and any of | those who ill-treated the Brotherhood. But in these evil days, we must not | do so! For our enemies have devised a burning pit of everlasting fire, into | which they say their God casteth all the people who worship Him, except it | be the very few who are released by their priest’s spells and masses. And | this be chiefly by giving monies and rich gifts to receive his favor, for | their God is ever in need of money. – SCREAMINGWITCH! SHEFFIELD FORUM UNMODERATED http://freeuktalksheffield.hyperboards.com/ http://www.geocities.com/screamingwitch2000/FUKTS.html When you post peoples personal info, It’s show that you have nothing left and have been spanked real good. To bad you fell for that phony # and addy.=(PMD.alt.talk.bollocks PI revealer) This is what happened.  I was riding home on my mule holding my rooster and hen.  My mule stopped on me.  Now my mule won’t move until I scratch him behind the ears.  Well the pastor’s wife was walking by.  I only said "Pardon me Mrs. Hillbunker but would you hold my cock and pullet while I scratch my ass", and the next thing I know is that the police have me on the ground, handcuffed, and beating me with billy clubs.                                       Tavish "You have a woman’s hand, milord! I’ll wager these dainty pinkies never weighed anchor in a storm." "Your skin milord. I’ll wager it ne’er felt the lash of a cat ['o' nine tails], been rubbed with salt, and then flayed off by a pirate chief to make fine stockings for his best cabin boy." "Ha. -Aah! You have a woman’s purse! I’ll wager that purse has never been used as a rowing-boat. I’ll wager it’s never had sixteen shipwrecked mariners tossing in it." "Oh! You have a woman’s mouth, milord! I’ll wager that mouth never had to chew through the side of a ship to escape the dreadful spindly killer fish. " – Mad Captain Rum PROMOTE YOOSNET…..X-POST! Look into my eyes and it’s easy to see One and one make two, two and one make three, It was destiny. Once every hundred-thousand years or so, When the sun doth shine and the moon doth glow And the grass doth grow… Needless to say, the beast was stunned. Whip-crack went his schwumpy tail, And the beast was done. He asked us: "(snort) Be you angels?" And we said, "Nay. We are but men." Rock! alt.pmd.spank.my.arse.please alt.pmd.spank.my.big.arse.please alt.pmd.spank.my.big.red.arse.please alt.pmd.biggest.spanked.looser.on.usenet SUBSCRIBE! Breaker, breaker, lookout, watch your back Be afraid there’s a Frisbee-like cat who’s a mighty sharp blade. So the feared and revered reputation was made of….. Sailcat "You’re a very empty person. If I were of a superstitious bent, I would seriously pray for you. Being of a more rational mien, I realise you are simply irredeemable. Whoever turned you into the person you are has a lot to answer for, one way or another."—JAF:uk.misc i change my sig everree now and then.its no big deal… like an insect that needs attention with a can of aerosol and a lighter,, they are both short lived "No one takes any notice of trolls posting through alt.net.news or whatever anonymous server you idiots use." — Mike Clayton mhm35×29 OFM#20 Frater V.V.L Hierophant Temple of Anubis No.2 Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn Rosicrucian Order of Alpha et Omega. def leppard….that is all

    Response:

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | hehehee… mid 70’s according to that fount of knowledge fOtty.. | heheheeee.. | fountain of liquid manure more like..:-) | P | | He big Chief Shitting Bull. My pointing out your treason really bothers you, doesn’t it xian fucker?

    Wahahahaha!!!!! No, fotty. I do not hate like you do. I am sorry your first wife, you know, the CHRITIAN one, dumped your fat ass and took your son- you know the one thatwas "kidnapped"- Bwhahaha! Projecting your hurt from your ex wife onto others is unhealthy. Shit, the pagans don’t want you, and neither do the christians. Don’t worry, there will be no repercussions. It’s not like you are a Witch

    fOtty is projecting his lack of ability onto others again. "Waaaa! Shadow Dancer is tryin’ ta kill me! Help! Help! She’s cursed me!" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft ™ "Arguing with Talesin is like running in the Special Olympics- even if you win, you’re still retarded"- Kim Krecek http://home.kc.rr.com/pendragonsloft


  • ARW site news

    Question:

    Aaaah cool!!!! I’ve got a better one, still blonde, but much better. Lemme know hwere to send it.    AFAIK, my mail is still working to some degree. You can send it to wintershard.alt-religion-wicca.com. I’ve been out of the house for most of the past few weeks, but will respond to mail eventually *chuckle*.

    Ok, I’ll send it. If it bounces, I’ll let you know. :) — Love
    blu*goddess of groundhogs*juju
    alt.fan.blujuju <-Subscribe!
    Eastside Tron champion 1982-1983
    http://blujuju.photosite.com <-December blog is up!!
    "Cancel my subscription to the resurrection" -Jim Morrison

    Response:

    | | I’m very happy that I’m not using your provider for my own sites. It’s | ridiculous that they’ve been down this long. I hope they’re not | charging you for their hosting services. | |    My provider consists of about two/three people on staff, and is a | start-up. This minor blip is not ridiculous at all, but simply par for | the course. Plus, due to financial difficulties, I haven’t paid the | monthly fees in six months. Given that I still have my sites running | at all, I’m not desiring (nor in a position) to complain. | |    Needless to say, I am extremely content with using them. Always willing to accept second-best.  That’s why you couldn’t keep True. She was literally too good for you. — Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft ™ "Arguing with Talesin is like running in the Special Olympics- even if you win, you’re still retarded"- Kim Krecek  http://home.kc.rr.com/pendragonsloft


  • Question for the witches

    Question:

    Have any of you in here ever read any of the posts by Mark Zahn in alt.music.rush or rec.martial-arts? Funny stuff…. Searching Google Advance Groups Search under Mark Zahn and/or wicca or wiccan or witch or witches on alt.music.rush and rec.martial-arts reveals no documents. you get the same thing when you search for "Nevermore" on PeopleWithAnIQOver50.com

    See Tales! That was actually amusing. If you give it some effort and really focus you might be able to squeeze some semblance of meaning out of the fact that you are too sedentary to move away from your computer for more than a few minutes each day.  Remember to get up and reach for the general direction of your toes once in a while, it’ll keep all the blood from pooling. Nevermore

    Response:

    Have any of you in here ever read any of the posts by Mark Zahn in alt.music.rush or rec.martial-arts? Funny stuff….

    No. — Love blu*goddess of groundhogs*juju Eastside Tron champion 1982-1983 "Cancel my subscription to the resurrection" -Jim Morrison

    Response:

    Have any of you in here ever read any of the posts by Mark Zahn in alt.music.rush or rec.martial-arts? Funny stuff…. Searching Google Advance Groups Search under Mark Zahn and/or wicca or wiccan or witch or witches on alt.music.rush and rec.martial-arts reveals no documents.

    you get the same thing when you search for "Nevermore" on PeopleWithAnIQOver50.com — Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft ™ "We will not have an all volunteer army!"                                                       – George W. Bush  http://home.kc.rr.com/pendragonsloft


  • Kerry = 299 but for E-Vote Theft

    Question:

    "In short, this election was a COMPLETE sham, on an order of magnitude that even you didn’t predict." I’m sure political hobbiests were completely aware of the HAVA act which allows for this complete sham process of electing officials.

    Response:

     In short, this election was a COMPLETE sham, on an order of magnitude that  even you didn’t predict.  Why come down on me for not predicting the obvious?  

    Why, Raven, how often have you whined like this. That’s not in your persona. It makes you sound so… Ren-like. – theoneflasehaddock

    Response:

     Evidence is overwhelming, and mounting, that the election was rigged by programming the E-Voting machines (Ballot Stuffing).  Without the theft of Ohio and Florida, the electoral votes would have been 299 for Kerry.

    Stay tuned to this developing story.  In the meantime there are some good sources to check out: Stephanie Miller 9-12 am on our local air america station. (check your local listings). Also Blackboxvoting.com and blackboxvoting.org. John Kerry has conceeded defeat, many of the 50 million who voted for him have not conceeded.  Many are filing their freedom of information requests, hiring their own lawyers, etc. They sat back in 2000 when the election was stolen, they aren’t going to let it happen again. It seems the exit polls were dead on accurate in areas that had non-electronic voting.   They were way off in places with electronic voting.   Numerous locations reported 600 registered voters, 3 thousand people voting.   It also seems some of the machines could only hold xxxxxxx number of votes at which point they started counting backwards.   Could this be Bush’s watergate or Iran Contra? Votegate?  Fraudgate? This is one of the reasons why innauguration is in January, the electoral college meets well into December. —-== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups —= East/West-Coast Server Farms – Total Privacy via Encryption =—

    Response:

    I believe that the exit polls were very different from the actual voting polls. I believe Kerry would have won if everybody was allowed to vote and electronic voting machines were not used. I believe Bush is going to mess up so badly that even his own supporters will impeach him. They are the only ones who can anyway.

    Response:

     In short, this election was a COMPLETE sham, on an order of magnitude that  even you didn’t predict.

      Why come down on me for not predicting the obvious?   — creator of alt.witchcraft creator of alt.traditional.witchcraft original creator of alt.religion.wicca don’t like my postings, then go to:   alt.religion.wicca.moderated                                           //// /// ‘~ (    —–                                          // /  // :    ) —–    Raven                                         /  /  /  /)   / —-    BlackBane                                              /   //..\       A Real Witch                                                 ‘//||\

    Response:

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Evidence is overwhelming, and mounting, that the election was rigged by programming the E-Voting machines (Ballot Stuffing).  Without the theft of Ohio and Florida, the electoral votes would have been 299 for Kerry. Kerry   = 252 Ohio    =  20 Florida =  27 Total   = 299 http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/scorecard/

    You moron. New Mexico had more vote fraud than Florida or Ohio. Add 5 more to Kerry. Ohio actually, because of the challengers, had more Democrats that waited in line for hours and gave up. Kerry probably lost more votes through that than through the other vote fraud there. Colorado looked like it should have been VERY close. I suspect there was vote fraud there. And North Carolina and Virginia looked suspiciously different from the exit polls as well. I’m not saying Kerry would have one any of those three states. I doubt it. But they could have been interesting,  at least. In short, this election was a COMPLETE sham, on an order of magnitude that even you didn’t predict. theoneflasehaddock

    Response:

    But your still full of shit HA HA HA your still WRONG agian

    – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Evidence is overwhelming, and mounting, that the election was rigged by programming the E-Voting machines (Ballot Stuffing).  Without the theft of Ohio and Florida, the electoral votes would have been 299 for Kerry. Kerry   = 252 Ohio    =  20 Florida =  27 Total   = 299 http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/scorecard/ — creator of alt.witchcraft creator of alt.traditional.witchcraft original creator of alt.religion.wicca don’t like my postings, then go to:   alt.religion.wicca.moderated                                           //// /// ‘~ (    —–                                          // /  // :    ) —–    Raven                                         /  /  /  /)   / —-    BlackBane                                              /   //..\       A Real Witch                                                 ‘//||\

    Response:

    Yes, but the American public has been conditioned to accept it. There seems to be something in the water. Prozac to be exact.

    I thought that was in England? :)

    Response:

    Yes, but the American public has been conditioned to accept it. There seems to be something in the water. Prozac to be exact. I thought that was in England? :)

    Computers make it easier to do a lot of things, but most of the things they make it easier to do don’t need to be done. — Lady Chatterly "Think of it like a blow-up doll" — mark

    Response:

    Yes, but the American public has been conditioned to accept it. There seems to be something in the water. Prozac to be exact.

    Response:

      Evidence is overwhelming, and mounting, that the election was rigged by programming the E-Voting machines (Ballot Stuffing).  Without the theft of Ohio and Florida, the electoral votes would have been 299 for Kerry. Kerry   = 252 Ohio    =  20 Florida =  27 Total   = 299 http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/scorecard/ — creator of alt.witchcraft creator of alt.traditional.witchcraft original creator of alt.religion.wicca don’t like my postings, then go to:   alt.religion.wicca.moderated                                           //// /// ‘~ (    —–                                          // /  // :    ) —–    Raven                                         /  /  /  /)   / —-    BlackBane                                              /   //..\       A Real Witch                                                 ‘//||\

    Response:


  • Wiccans suck…

    Question:

    And we’re damn good at it too. Free of charge.

    Response:

    Go hence and fuck thyself.

    Response:

    QUOTE: They spend more time looking into Native  American practice than they do looking into their own ancestral Native European roots which still exist. GAIA: Again, you know this —  how?

    Or better yet, this is relevant how? Really now, to paint an entire group of people with the same brush – so wide a brush misses all the fine detail. ~ Kari Cowan * Tarot and the Liquid Muse * New Vegetarian Recipe section   in Body, Mind & Spirit     http://www.MEGA.bz

    Response:

    "The Second or Third from the Bottom Most Offensive (Phuk Yew)" Well, hey, at least you have an appropriate name that best suits you. Cockmonkey. cockmonkey?

    I think Monkeycock best suits fOtty.

    Response:

    But Wicca has evolved over the years, and the process continues. http://www.levity.com/mavericks/gimbut.htm It is a wonder to me why the ‘wiccans’ have not glommed onto the genuine

    source of tradition rather than suffer the criticisms of practicing a  fake religion. GAIA: And you know that they have not because???? QUOTE: And whatever it is that they do practice, why dont they spend time looking at how living, genuine, traditional shamen and  witches

    practice their craft? GAIA: What makes you think they do not? QUOTE: They spend more time looking into Native  American practice than they do looking into their own ancestral Native European roots which still exist. GAIA: Again, you know this —  how?

    Response:

    I am anti-religious and while I typically like non-mainstream stuff, the

    more I look at Wicca the more I think they’re a bunch of lunatics. I tried to explain that Wiccans were nuts, that they weren’t really even a

    "real" religion …  I told him they pranced  around naked in the woods and pretended to cast spells and that if anything, besides wallowing in their collective victimization, that their real motive was simply to shock xians. GAIA: Well, you’re of course entitled to "dislike" anybody you want — but you might want to at least do it on the basis of TRUTH rather than faulty assumptions. Your qualifications for a "real" religion being unknown, nevertheless it is true that Wicca is considered a "real" enough religion that: 1.   the US Army Chaplains Handbook includes a chapter on the principles, practices and history of Wicca.;  and 2.  there are many Wiccan groups that have achieved "501-c3" tax-free status (meaning they are accepted by the US Government as official, legal churches.) I can further assure you that many Wiccans have no interest in "wallowing" in any victimization — they are quite too busy having fun worshipping, celebrating and being Wiccans — all of which, btw, it’s quite possible to do while either clothed or unclothed. *g* And what does or does not shock Christians is pretty much irrelevant to most Wiccans. QUOTE:

    (he claimed that Wicca was compatible with xianity and I told him he was nuts). GAIA: Your brother is not — at least in this regard — "nuts"; in fact Wicca is or can be compatible with various kinds/ forms of Christiainity, especially (some forms of) Gnostic or Mystical Christianity. Furthermore, there are many Wiccans who see Jesus as just another version of the sacrificial dying and regenerating God-man that has many names throughout various cultures and eras, so yes, Wicca and Christianity can be compatible — if one is willing to overlook or deal with some of the contradictions. QUOTE: I  was probably being facetious, but I told him if I had my way I’d round up every Wiccan and throw them in the ovens. GAIA: {shrug} so you’re not much different from other bigots. QUOTE: "White witchcraft groups say that if you curse a person, it will return to

    you three-fold, come home to roost, or in some way boomerang back to the sender.  This is yet another indication of the guilt-ridden philosophy which is held by these neo-Pagan, pseudo-Christian groups. GAIA: Curses, like all spells, are gathered, focused and directed energy; and whatever energy is sent out has an impact  upon the sender — that’s not Christianity, that’s reality — some refer to it as Karma.

    Response:

    cockmonkey?

    Are you kidding? — Lady Chatterly "You’ve been boring people for months now with your hollow phrases and wornout cliches. Is that your strategy? Just boring people to death? If you’ve got something substantial to add, for crying out loud; add it! If not, just shut the fuck up. Go blow an alien! … btw, are you Dorothy?" — 19:09:05:13

    Response:

    "The Second or Third from the Bottom Most Offensive (Phuk Yew)"

    Well, hey, at least you have an appropriate name that best suits you. Cockmonkey.

    cockmonkey? — Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft ™ "We will not have an all volunteer army!"                                                       – George W. Bush  http://home.kc.rr.com/pendragonsloft


  • Real witches try to break old myths

    Question:

    Real witches try to break old myths Sat Oct 30, 9:36 AM ET Local – Daily Herald

    You are proof that evolution does go in reverse. Story and Photos By Vincent Pierri Daily Herald Staff            Writer/Photographer            On Halloween night, scores of pirates, princesses and superheroes            will ring doorbells and receive M&M’s in return.

    A broken hand works, but not a broken heart. — Lady Chatterly "Congrats Lady Chatterly! That soc.moron swallowed so hard your hook is dangling from his asshole. It must be flattering to have someone talking about RL threats with you." — Daedalus

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     Real witches try to break old myths                   Sat Oct 30, 9:36 AM ET Local – Daily Herald             Story and Photos By Vincent Pierri Daily Herald Staff             Writer/Photographer             On Halloween night, scores of pirates, princesses and superheroes             will ring doorbells and receive M&M’s in return.             While kids beg for candy, another group will peer into black             mirrors, cast spells, read tarot cards and generally take advantage             of what they say is the best time of year to commune with spirits.             Pagan minister Adam Holtzinger says "the veil between this world and             the next is thinnest" during Halloween – what Wiccans call Samhain.             Holtzinger’s Antioch store, At Sacred Earth, is busy this time of             year. He says it’s the only place between Milwaukee and Chicago for             local witches to buy their tools.             Holtzinger admits it’s getting easier to be a witch, but the             practice is still misunderstood and feared.             "As soon as you tell people you’re a witch, the curtain goes down,"             he said. "We want to reclaim the word and remove its negative             connotation. It’s a matter of education."             Getting a grasp of the facts can be tricky. Wicca, the modern name             for witchcraft, doesn’t fit into neat categories. It lacks a central             organization and has no creeds, rules or buildings. There isn’t one             main god or goddess, and the rituals are as varied as the people who             practice them.             "Pagans honor all faces of the divine," Holtzinger explained. "Who             you choose as your deities is up to you."             Choosing gods based on feelings doesn’t sound like a good idea to             the Rev. Mel Svendsen, senior pastor at Harvest Bible Chapel in             Vernon Hills. "Wiccans worship created things rather than the             creator – Jesus Christ," he said. "They are looking for life’s             answers in all the wrong places."             In contrast to Christianity and other mainstream religions, Wicca is             considered Neo-pagan – a modern version of ancient, earth-based             spiritualities. The goal is to gain harmony with the basic cycles of             nature and communicate with the spirit world.             Pagan is the umbrella term that covers Wicca and several similar             practices. Ron Miller, head of the religion department at Lake             Forest College, says Paganism dates back thousands of years and is a             blend of the ancient Greek and Roman mystery religions. Pagan was a             pejorative term that meant "country dweller," referring to those who             didn’t accept Christianity and fled to the hills for fear of             persecution.             Tools of the craft may include ritual daggers, pentagrams, incense,             candles, cauldrons and spells. When people hear that, Holtzinger             says, they draw the predictable, two-word conclusion.             "Devil worship," Holtzinger says with a tired smile. He believes the             stereotype is unfair and illogical.             "Our beliefs predate Christianity," he explained. "Satanism mocks             Christianity. We have no interest in criticizing anyone’s             spirituality. We don’t care if the cross is upside down or             right-side up."             Holtzinger says daggers are never used for cutting but for directing             energy during rituals. The pentagram symbolizes the five primitive             elements of fire, water, earth, air and spirit. Spells can only be             cast for the good of others and are never evil, Holtzinger said.             The number of adherents across the country is dwarfed by the             established religions, but Neo-paganism saw significant growth in             the last decade. A study by City University of New York noted a jump             in the number of adult Pagans, from 8,000 in 1990 to 274,000 in             2001. By comparison, there are more than 159 million Christians, 2.8             million Jews and 1.1 million Muslims in the United States.             Pagan Pride Days are becoming common, especially on college             campuses. Believers are urged to use the event to "come out of the             broom closet" during the annual gathering. The celebrations are             usually held in September.             Not surprising, the Internet is bringing Pagans together. A popular             site, www.witchvox.com, boasts 7,000 links and includes daily Pagan             news updates. Pagan parents raising their kids can find help at             www.PaganParenting.com.             Pagans in the armed forces can get support from the Military Pagan             Network at www.milpagan.org.             Shelves at chain bookstores are well stocked with Wiccan titles. The             "Complete Idiot’s Guide to Wicca and Witchcraft" is a sign the             movement is hitting mainstream.             Holtzinger says people like Wicca because there are no rules or             authority figures to obey. The self-styled, solitary nature of the             religion allows for "creativity in worship."             Miller noted another possible cause for the spike in the Pagan             population.             "I think you’re seeing a reaction to the male hierarchy in Western             religions," he said. "This is a system that empowers women."             Angie Buchanan agrees. She heads a Pagan group called Gaia’s Womb in             Bannockburn.             "Women who are trying to revive the goddess within their religious             traditions are being met with resistance," she said. "Paganism             offers the perfect balance between male and female divinity."             Wiccans observe eight "sabbats" or seasonal celebrations each year.             Four are considered major holidays, tied to equinoxes or solstices.             During the Oct. 31 celebration of Samhian (pronounced SOW-en,)             Wiccans may gather together to share a Dumb Supper. The meal is             eaten in total silence and an empty chair is reserved for any             visiting spirit or deceased relative. Other rituals may include             burying apples and pomegranates to be enjoyed by spirits as they             pass through the curtain separating this world from the next.             The practice of scrying, which literally means "to see," is a             favorite on Halloween night. People seek messages or images from             beyond by gazing deeply into cauldrons filled with dark liquid or by             peering into black mirrors.             Holtzinger’s store is stocked with ritual items such as Wiccan spell             candles; varieties of small, smooth stones used for healing or             divination; patchouli incense for gaining wisdom; and a host of             small idols.             Witches apparently also have a sense of humor. You can buy a bar of             "Dragon’s Blood Soap" or a bumper sticker that says, "Witches Do It             In Circles."             Humor aside, the movement has its critics.             Steve Harmantas, senior pastor at Good Shepherd Bible Church in Lake             Zurich, says people following this spiritual path are trifling with             evil powers whether they know it or not. He said participants open             themselves up to spiritual oppression if not possession.             "Satan has a kingdom," he said. "The powers of darkness are real.             The Bible says that the devil masquerades as an angel of light. The             devil doesn’t show up wearing horns. He sugar coats his presence."             Holtzinger is convinced that if people were educated about Wicca,             the prejudice would lessen.             "Fear comes from ignorance," he said. "Once the truth is laid out,             people are reasonable. Once they see there isn’t anything from             Hollywood or horror novels, they’re not much concerned."

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  • Confused newbie

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    Greetings to everyone.

    Hello there. I am amazed and confused about what I have seen in this news group in as little as 4 days.

    Try reading it for 8 years. You won’t be in the least confuzed. (except for who -REALLY- is ren this week) I am not an expert on Wicca or any paganistic ideologies.

    Nope, yer not. Me either, for that matter. However, I have learned that the very basic and most fundamental ideal is to seek balance and harmony with our surroundings, with nature, with each other and with ourselves.

    Thats a good way to live and a good outlook to have, regardless or your beliefs. Yet in this time of year, perhaps the most holy time of year for Wiccans and Pagans, such strife, blatant hatred, and vile disregard for all Wicca and Paganism stands for is amazing to me.

    Why is that? Does your biological family get along 100% of the time? Do you never have a disagreement? Were you never corrected as a child? Since I entered this group and posted my first question, I have been: Told I am no blacksmith, I should go eleswhere for the answers I sought, Accussed of lying, Accused of falsly identifying myself, Interrogated regarding my reasons and purpose for knowledge requests, and I have simply and bluntly been ensnared in someone else’s politics.

    And answered politely, if I remember looking up a rune site for you correctly… You forgot to mention that, for some reason. I refuse to play.

    As is your choice, but you might miss out on some real fun. Thank you all for your VERY eye opening introduction to Wicca and Paganism in a public forum.  I can understand much more of the public’s fear and relentless persecution.  Between the politics, personalities and egos I can see that the majority of my information will have to come from someplace else.

    As it should. What good is -anything- that’s spoon fed to you? Would you value it? Would you toss it off like so much chaff to the wind? Your spirituality should come from within, not from a usenet group. And so, here I admit I am not much of a Wiccan, yet I do wish to toss this blessing unto each of us: From my heart to your heart, From my mind to your mind, From my spirit to your spirit, May we all find peace to share, May we all find knowledge to learn, May we all find wisdom to be more than we are, today. Blessed be each of us on our individual paths.

    Thank you. "Tis appreciated. Daniel Curry, a.k.a. Zylogue, the blacksmith

    – Love blu*goddess of groundhogs*juju Eastside Tron champion 1982-1983 "Cancel my subscription to the resurrection" -Jim Morrison

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    – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok, I was a *real* blacksmith. Here is your test. What is the role of a magnet in the carburizing process? And what was the preferred quench medium of damascus blade? Congratulations to you. The temperature at which steel loses its magnetic properties is usually considered the best temp to work the steel.  The crystalline structure of the carbon molecules has broken down, the steel is it’s most malleable without running too much oxidation or scale. Damascus blades or just the edge to be sharpened are most often quenched in some form of oil.  I have used recycled motor oil, as well as a ’super quench’ recipe that is mostly water.  Both work.  it just depends upon the Damascus knife being for show or for actual use.  Many of the ‘professional’ knife makers have their own ways of doing the quench, in some cases they treat it as a trade secret.  I have even read where one guy does his quenching in water that has a block of dry ice in it.  The sudden decrease in temperature is what gives the blade it’s incredible hardness, but unfortunately, the harder the steel, the more brittle it is. Zylogue, the blacksmith — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). When the crystalline lattice of steel moves from martensite to austensite it does lose magnetic property. The point, however, was the role of a magnet. I suppose if you can’t read the steel you could use the magnet to test if crystalline lattice restructure has completed, but that method is problematic with high nickel/chromium content – the stainless steels like 4140 or monels. Over time, I’ve come to prefer a plain old high carbon steel because it sharpens much better and you can get a much, much finer edge. I prefer sharpness over durability, you can do cooler things with it. Literally split hairs if you know how to hone with charged leather.  More maintenance,though. Old worn out bastard or mill files are my fave. you do have to anneal them overnight. Something you should ALWAYS do even if you have flatstock; most don’t bother, but there is a lot of stress in the stock from the rolling process. My blades never fractured, even under magnafluxing, and I think that is the reason why. Damascus blades were quenched by plunging them into the belly of a nubian slave. That is not a method currently available to us, but under the current administration, that may change. Perhaps there soon may be an interesting role for rasperry sauce in the ravenous demon smithy’s buffet of bad intent?  Harley motorcycle chains are good for damascus type steels, cable is kinda lame and crappy steel for a working knife. But I have done the folding method, a lot of work and I don’t know if it is really all it is cracked up to be because as much carbon gets in the steel by case-hardening(carburizing) in bone charcoal as folding it would do.Probably had its place with poor steel back then, and it sure is purty as a horse named midnite, but with what is available from Japan in the way of knife stock …I don’t see much advantage to it.

    thank you, Mr. Google now go do a search on "get the fuck out" — Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft ™ "We will not have an all volunteer army!"                                                       – George W. Bush  http://home.kc.rr.com/pendragonsloft


  • Dragon Magic?

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    im new to wicca and have heard of dragon magic.I am drawn to dragons and am very interested in learning more .can anyone tell me about this if there is a practice of dragon magic or not and where could i find recourses to learn more.Thank you for the help

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    im new to wicca and have heard of dragon magic.I am drawn to dragons and am very interested in learning more .can anyone tell me  about this if there is a practice of dragon magic or not and where could i  find recourses to learn more.Thank you for the help

    Talk to Lhung over at http://dragonking.blogspot.com/ Nevermore (There be dragons)

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    | | im new to wicca and have heard of dragon magic.I am | drawn to dragons and am very interested in learning more .can anyone tell me | about this if there is a practice of dragon magic or not and where could i | find recourses | to learn more.Thank you for the help | | Whatever you do stay away from a book on dragon magick by DJ Conway. | She’s a hack. Isn’t she the one who wrote "Celtic Magick" and "Norse Magick"- both of which are the exact same book with just the cultural references changed? — Talesin- The Bad Boy of Witchcraft ™ "We will not have an all volunteer army!"                                                       – George W. Bush  http://home.kc.rr.com/pendragonsloft


  • HomeLand

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      Sounds NAZI.  If not NAZI, at least from one of those two bit movies where America has turned into a Dictatorship State where teens are the resistance based in Free Alaska. — creator of alt.witchcraft creator of alt.traditional.witchcraft original creator of alt.religion.wicca don’t like my postings, then go to:   alt.religion.wicca.moderated                                           //// /// ‘~ (    —–                                          // /  // :    ) —–    Raven                                         /  /  /  /)   / —-    BlackBane                                              /   //..\       A Real Witch                                                 ‘//||\

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    Good thing that I live in Dixie

    – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Sounds NAZI.  If not NAZI, at least from one of those two bit movies where America has turned into a Dictatorship State where teens are the resistance based in Free Alaska. — creator of alt.witchcraft creator of alt.traditional.witchcraft original creator of alt.religion.wicca don’t like my postings, then go to:   alt.religion.wicca.moderated                                           //// /// ‘~ (    —–                                          // /  // :    ) —–    Raven                                         /  /  /  /)   / —-    BlackBane                                              /   //..\       A Real Witch                                                 ‘//||\

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     Sounds NAZI.  If not NAZI, at least from one of those two bit movies where America has turned into a Dictatorship State where teens are the resistance based in Free Alaska.

    hehehe I always had a strange fascination with those two-bit films, a bit like every other episode of ‘Sliders’ – now that was pretty bad. — Norfolk Enchants

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